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#26 Post by kv » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:03 pm

Around 30 I began to hate hangovers, bookie's, racetracks, Vegas, cocaine, bar crawls, keggers, block parties, benders and so on :hehe:

Until then Vegas was great...but being old I liked older Vegas where down town was run down and seedy...and stuff was sooo cheap...and it was more the adult playground than Disneyland for the whole family
...pretty much like old LA and Hollywood vs now

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#27 Post by Hype » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:20 pm

kv wrote:Around 30 I began to hate hangovers, bookie's, racetracks, Vegas, cocaine, bar crawls, keggers, block parties, benders and so on :hehe:

Until then Vegas was great...but being old I liked older Vegas where down town was run down and seedy...and stuff was sooo cheap...and it was more the adult playground than Disneyland for the whole family
...pretty much like old LA and Hollywood vs now
Does that mean you do like it as an old person? Or you don't? ... Never mind. I re-read it... I get it now.

I admit, despite being over 30, I kind of enjoyed the little of Fremont St.'s insanity that I bothered with. But I wasn't indulging in the illicit stuff, just booze, and I guess I didn't feel the pressure to spend money beyond what I wanted to.

Besides the desert itself, I think I just had a blast drinking micheladas in the street/shops (something we can't do in Canada) and finding decent (price and quality) off-strip food. I guess because I wasn't gambling or getting wasted/partying it was affordable. :noclue:

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#28 Post by SR » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:52 am

If you like taking the cup to the streets, I highly recommend New Orleans in the Quarter. The town bursts with charm, the people are gracious and welcoming, the music is eclectic and excellent, and the food is sublime.....24/7 town with rich history and unafraid of decadence of all sorts without boasting or shiny things. For me, it runs a close 2nd to NY. :cool:

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#29 Post by bman » Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:14 am

My first and only time in Vegas was for two of the Nothing's Shocking shows a few years back. I loved getting out to the red rocks area. Gorgeous, quiet. Perfect. Vegas itself is not my cup of tea. Gambling for a bit is ok but without the Janes shows I would have hated the strip.

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#30 Post by Juana » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:22 pm

SR wrote:If you like taking the cup to the streets, I highly recommend New Orleans in the Quarter. The town bursts with charm, the people are gracious and welcoming, the music is eclectic and excellent, and the food is sublime.....24/7 town with rich history and unafraid of decadence of all sorts without boasting or shiny things. For me, it runs a close 2nd to NY. :cool:
NOLA is where it's at. Shit now I want to go to Jackson Square this weekend.

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#31 Post by Hype » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:40 pm

I'm sure New Orleans is an amazing place for many reasons, but it doesn't have the desert. I'd prefer less culture AND less humidity to maximal culture and maximal humidity. :lol:

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#32 Post by SR » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:38 am

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#33 Post by JOEinPHX » Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:57 pm

SR wrote:If you like taking the cup to the streets, I highly recommend New Orleans in the Quarter. The town bursts with charm, the people are gracious and welcoming, the music is eclectic and excellent, and the food is sublime.....24/7 town with rich history and unafraid of decadence of all sorts without boasting or shiny things. For me, it runs a close 2nd to NY. :cool:
I feel the exact opposite about New Orleans.

I found it filthy, run down, annoying with all the idiots banging plastic buckets or playing 700 different kinds of music in the streets, and couldn't wait to leave.

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#34 Post by JOEinPHX » Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:57 pm

Hype wrote:I'm sure New Orleans is an amazing place for many reasons, but it doesn't have the desert. I'd prefer less culture AND less humidity to maximal culture and maximal humidity. :lol:
New Orleans gives you swamp ass, but all over your whole body.

The humidity level is gross.

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#35 Post by SR » Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:23 am

Six7Six7 wrote:
SR wrote:If you like taking the cup to the streets, I highly recommend New Orleans in the Quarter. The town bursts with charm, the people are gracious and welcoming, the music is eclectic and excellent, and the food is sublime.....24/7 town with rich history and unafraid of decadence of all sorts without boasting or shiny things. For me, it runs a close 2nd to NY. :cool:
I feel the exact opposite about New Orleans.

I found it filthy, run down, annoying with all the idiots banging plastic buckets or playing 700 different kinds of music in the streets, and couldn't wait to leave.
NYC and Boston suffer the same problem in summer too. The deep south is humid, but it is manageble in certain seasons...even pleasant. I spent far too much time in Miami (far south of the deep south) and among the many things I despised was the humidity. As for the rest, dunno..... :lol:

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#36 Post by kevin » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:44 am

I’ve lived in Houston my entire 36 years. Housing is not affordable anymore. The city is overcrowded. There is definitely a cultural divide with people not abiding by basic American courtesies. Such as slow vehicles should not be in far left lane of freeway or turning left at an intersection onto a side street that doesn’t have a red light. Aggressive drivers. Ignorant drivers. Racist miniorities coming from traditional, close minded cultures. I got hit on my motorcycle by a woman who didn’t speak English and ran a stop sign. Then you have the weather. 99% humidity with temps 100 degrees all summer and low to high 90s 9 months out of the year. Flooding, roaches, rats, alligators, possoms, bats, and snakes. Mosquitos that carry West Nile and Zika. Obese short people everywhere. Alcoholics everywhere. Shitty attitudes abound. High crime rates.
My grandparents both recently passed and they raised me. My mom is a whore and father alcoholic. Crazy thing is how deep my roots run here. Schools, streets, living farm, and parks named after direct descendants in Spring area. Charter members of oldest Lutheran church and family about to sell original farm for millions. But I’m out of here. Fuck Houston. I have job lined up in northern Colorado. Will begin later this month. Texas is a worthless place to visit. I will put Louisiana right there also.

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#37 Post by clickie » Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:50 pm

I'm not gonna lie, Houston has stood out to me as the worst place to live in the U.S. for the past 15 years or so ever since I really started to pay attention to these type of things.

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#38 Post by JOEinPHX » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:43 am

Anyone talking about the worst place to be in America, and doesn't mention Northeast Ohio, clearly does not understand what terrible living truly is.

Northeast Ohio has the 10 month rain/snow of seattle, but is a dead steel city like Detroit that everyone left. But they don't even having winning sports teams to lift the mood. They lose, and lose, over and over again. The musical landscape is stuck in the mid-90s when Nu-Metal became a thing and the band Mushroomhead is now the city's pride and glory. Literally every local band still plays 7 string guitars and many wear masks, hoping to get noticed and go on tour with the one band who "made it". Radio stations that aren't sports talk don't last. There are no good bars, no good restaurants, and if you go downtown after 5pm most of it is closed because there are 6 buildings and 5 of them are banks.

Houston is amazing in comparison.

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#39 Post by clickie » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:56 am

That sounds like heaven on earth compared to the time I've spent in Houston. Houston briefly turned me into a violent cynical monster. Someone who treats all human beings as prey, doesn't trust anyone and behaves accordingly to their law of nature. Also the temperature is unbearably humid which turns the place into an absolute hell.
Stay there long enough and you end up just like them.

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#40 Post by SR » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:28 am

So, Phoenix and Florida are the answers

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#41 Post by creep » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:49 am

clickie wrote:I'm not gonna lie, Houston has stood out to me as the worst place to live in the U.S. for the past 15 years or so ever since I really started to pay attention to these type of things.
Ive traveled quite a bit in Texas and there are some great places to live there but Houston is not one of them. I agree that it's a horrible place.

I also think Austin is way overrated.

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#42 Post by Hype » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:48 am

Guys... I'm trying to get AWAY from humidity... Right now it's 28C and 50% humidity in my town and it's not even noon. The "humidex" rating for today is 43C. A couple days ago, it was effectively hotter than Death Valley by "feel" because of the humidity. I don't care about the shittiness of a city's culture or people or whatever if it's got dry heat. Calgary, AB was like that, but has bitterly cold winters. I'd still prefer that to this 50-60% humidity, 30+ degrees Celsius weather half the year and alternating bitterly damp cold and rainy winters that last upwards of 5-6 months. I'll even take Madison, WI over Southern Ontario weather. I think you can find things to enjoy about any place, and a lot of places that people love are places where I think it would be insane to seriously live (like New Orleans, or New York, or LA; or even Toronto, which has the gross humidity in the summer AND a depressing lack of world-class infrastructure and culture).

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#43 Post by Artemis » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:58 pm

Hype, don't forget about the spike in gun violence lately. Eleven people shot since Friday in the downtown area. 51 homocides so far this year, up from last year at this time and higher than New York.

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#44 Post by kv » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:06 pm

I never understand why people knock LA.... it's so fucking huge you can find whatever you wanna do...traffic is fucked....parts of LA are fucked...most is pretty fucking rad...mostly people from all cultures and Creed's get along in a grocery store or a mall...it's an amazing place I think...you can surf in the morning catch lunch in Chinatown, go to the mountains and ski at night...then hit a after hours place in Hollywood before driving back to the beach to rest before morning surf :rockon:

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#45 Post by creep » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:34 pm

kv wrote:I never understand why people knock LA.... it's so fucking huge you can find whatever you wanna do...traffic is fucked....parts of LA are fucked...most is pretty fucking rad...mostly people from all cultures and Creed's get along in a grocery store or a mall...it's an amazing place I think...you can surf in the morning catch lunch in Chinatown, go to the mountains and ski at night...then hit a after hours place in Hollywood before driving back to the beach to rest before morning surf :rockon:
Because we can't afford to live there. I would choose San Diego over LA though

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#46 Post by Hype » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:35 pm

There are parts of Toronto I'd live in, and I'm sure there are parts of LA I'd find awesome, and obviously there are tons of perks of all big cities. But big cities are also easy to visit and take advantage of all the good parts. I guess my point was only that I really liked Las Vegas even though I get why people don't like it. Part of what I enjoyed is that the parts of it I wouldn't like were really easy to avoid, and I felt like the complaints about it were way overblown. I think I feel similarly about Chicago. It's a city with serious problems, but it's also really easy to enjoy when the weather's good. If I could have the food and music and infrastructure of Chicago with the university-town atmosphere of Boston and Pittsburgh and the weather of Las Vegas... I think that'd be a perfect city. Paris is kind of like that, but it has some pretty serious social issues right now that it's not doing a good job working out.

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#47 Post by kv » Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:31 am

Vegas has perfect weather? It's an outdoor oven half the year

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#48 Post by SR » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:25 am

Paris isn't the only one; A lot of major cities are at a tipping point in Europe.

I have put a great deal of thought into this as I am old. Weather is important. I wilt in intense heat and intense heat and humidity and since this convo has evolved from cities to visit to cities to live, there are a few requisites that I'd need.

1. Space. I'd like to wake up to the ocean or a mountain range and streams or rivers. Luckily both have a large number of locales that have moderate climates. Unluckily, most are really expensive. As much as I don't want to deal with people at home, I'd like a short drive into a town to get a newspaper and a cup of coffee. Then, I'd need a city not too far off for music, food, and theatrer.

2. Peeps....No monster truck rallys; no NRA or WWE conventions; no Jebidiah or Cletus confederate flags; no hallelujapalooza Jebus freaks; no missplelled signs....

3. Weather. I don't think I'd want a climate stasis. I'd like to track seasons and learn about thelocal flora and fauna.


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#49 Post by Hype » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:49 am

Vegas is an oven, yes. But it's the kind of oven that I like.

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#50 Post by creep » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:58 am

I can appreciate the desert but not in a big city. We get a few months of Vegas like heat and I don't mind it too much. It's way better than the winters we get here. I know compared to everyone else our winters are nothing (mid 50's F and some rain) but they are the wort part about where I live. Not enough daylight too in the winter. Easily the best climate ever is Hawaii.

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