Kind Heaven Orchestra's 12/2 show: Will it happen or not?

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Is this show happening?

It will go on as planned
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It will get canceled
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Re: Kind Heaven Orchestra's 12/2 show: Will it happen or not?

#26 Post by clickie » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:25 pm

Of course this show is gonna happen, Perry not showing up would be like Walt Disney blowing off the premier of Disney World


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#28 Post by creep » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:25 pm

so who is going on Friday besides Drifter? anyone??

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#29 Post by MYXYLPLYX » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:33 pm

https://m.sfgate.com/entertainment/arti ... 03044027=1



WED NOV 28 2018



Pop Quiz: Perry Farrell on his new supergroup, Bill Graham ties and ‘unplugging"
Aidin Vaziri | on November 20, 2018


Even with Jane’s Addiction on hiatus, Perry Farrell seems to have a million things going on.

The wiry frontman and Lollapalooza co-founder, who turns 60 next year, is currently working on building a $90 million Las Vegas immersive reality experience called Kind Heaven, which is set to open in 2020.


He’s also putting the finishing touches on a new album by his latest outfit, Kind Heaven Orchestra, which includes drummer Matt Chamberlain (Soundgarden) and bassist Chris Chaney (Jane’s Addiction). The album features guest contributions by Taylor Hawkins (Foo Fighters), Tommy Lee (Motley Crue), Peter Distefano (Porno for Pyros), Dhani Harrison and Elliot Easton (the Cars), and co-production by David Bowie associate Tony Visconti



The band is scheduled to make its official live debut at the Fillmore in San Francisco on Sunday, Dec. 2, as part of a gala celebrating the inaugural Bill Graham Festival of Lights. Farrell spoke to The Chronicle from his home in Los Angeles.

Q: You picked the Fillmore to debut the Kind Heaven Orchestra. What’s your connection with Bill Graham?

A: Well, obviously, the first connection I had with Bill Graham was performing up in San Francisco for Bill Graham Presents. We always had great shows in San Francisco, even when we were in small little clubs, but especially when we got to Lollapalooza size.

I’ll never forget the way that the man took such great care with the shows and patrons. In 1997, I was invited to the menorah lighting by Bill Graham’s Rabbi Yosef Langer. At that menorah lighting, I met Bill’s son Alex, and we became DJ partners and best friends as well. We’re all family.


Q: Now you’re coming back to do it again. What does the menorah lighting mean to you?

A: What I dig about the menorah being lit outdoors, for the public to come and dig it and enjoy it, is really that menorah represents our tree of life that we are represented on.


It’s not just a Jewish thing. It’s how man — his motives, love and kindness, the emotions that he has — are represented on that menorah. So when we light it to the public, we are celebrating ourselves. We’re celebrating our life.

Q: You are a partner in the Kind Heaven project that’s going to open in Las Vegas on New Year’s Day 2020. Do you feel the same sense of excitement you had around the launch of Lollapalooza?


A: Yeah, for sure. It’s going to create an entirely new platform for musicians. Las Vegas is the first place, but it’s not the last. We have ideas and intentions to go around the world with it. It’s all about what you can do with the light and storytelling when you have an environment you can control.

I was at a concert recently with two people who are from my era, and they’ve only gotten better, but the room where they were playing bummed me out. I just saw these four walls and seats. It was too big.

You went through punk rock and you know how fun it was when you’re in a room and everybody’s rubbing up against each other. You studied people’s fashion and their attitudes and you looked at it. I’m looking to bring that intimacy back to the music scene.

Q: With all these ideas going through your head, do you ever unplug?

A: I do. I really do have to disappear sometimes. I almost can’t take it. This happened recently — I’m talking yesterday.

We’re living through these fires and this awful, depressing news cycle. I’m a newshound, and I watch the news religiously. I’m trying so hard to do this project and staying in touch with that, and then I’ve got my kids. But the news really sets me over the edge. I’m hearing these terrible things every damn day. It really wipes me out, man. I’m not kidding. I ducked out.

Q: When was the last time you kicked up your feet and just watched bad TV?

A: You want me to tell you about one of my shows that is the dorkiest show I like? “90 Day Fiancé.” But that’s depressing too, because you’re basically watching two people use each other by promising love when you can see there’s no love there. I can’t take my eyes off of it.

Aidin Vaziri is The San Francisco Chronicle’s pop music critic. Email: avaziri@sfchronicle.com Twitter: @MusicSF

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#30 Post by Stickyfingers » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:48 am



Blockchain? Messianic era? Bring heaven to Las Vegas?
I don't know what to think about this project, but some people will lost his money.

Perry is not in a healthy mental state, don't know what happen to him, but he is a singer and his voice has gone long time ago.

If I were him I should start to worry.

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#31 Post by Larry B. » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:46 am

I believe the medical term for Perry’s diagnosis is “absolutely bonkers”.

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#32 Post by Hype » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:00 pm

Stickyfingers wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:48 am


Blockchain? Messianic era? Bring heaven to Las Vegas?
I don't know what to think about this project, but some people will lost his money.

Perry is not in a healthy mental state, don't know what happen to him, but he is a singer and his voice has gone long time ago.

If I were him I should start to worry.
That poor interviewer... :lol:
I think they're only mentioning blockchain because that interview is at some shitty cryptocurrency conference. Clearly it was set up by some PR idiot before the bottom fell out of that market.

The Messianic thing isn't new for Perry, it's the stuff he was messing with in the SYTBS era -- pretty straightforward Kabbalah stuff, but with a weird corporate / LV / Liberace vibe.

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#33 Post by Hokahey » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:17 pm

This is all typical Perry stuff, ideas and themes. 20+ years ago, it would have been exciting to consider. Now it's being filtered through his old man brain and it comes together poorly. He's very luck to have Lollapalooza money to finance his life and goofy ideas.

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#34 Post by phenobarb_bambalam » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:32 am

I checked with the Fillmore BO about a month ago to see how well the show had been selling - after having been on sale for about a week, it was halfway sold. The venue is still trying to promote the show, so I suspect there are still quite a few tickets left, but the room won't be completely empty.

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#35 Post by MYXYLPLYX » Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:03 pm

A hair over 600 tickets sold... there could be a decent amount of walk up sales tonight, but on a cold December Sunday night I wouldn't bet on it... :noclue:

Same set list as last night... literally just crossed out the LA venue and wrote in The Fillmore.

Perry and Etty were last to arrive for sound check, but I was impressed that they at least showed. Perry actually seemed cool, started by making fun of himself for apparently starting a song in the wrong key the other night, asking for help so that he'd never do that again. For all appearances, it seems like Chaney is de facto band leader, as all the soundcheck discussion was between Perry and Chaney with the FOH engineer. Etty fussed over the backup singer/dancers during rehearsal, but as they are limited to mostly just hand movements and side to side steps it's not particularly interesting nor does it add to the performance that I could see.

I finished early and left before doors... rather be home with the family than stick around for the show.

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#36 Post by bman » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:56 am


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#37 Post by bman » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:02 am

Have the set is Perry talking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1UbB_NuJZY

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#38 Post by Stickyfingers » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:06 am

Unbelievably ridiculous. :banghead:

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#39 Post by clickie » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:14 am

It's annoying watching the way Perry pulls the mic from his face constantly like a trombonist

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#40 Post by Hype » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:20 am

clickie wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:14 am
It's annoying watching the way Perry pulls the mic from his face constantly like a trombonist
Agreed. But he has been doing this since JA v1.0. The difference now is that his voice sucks.

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#41 Post by Pandemonium » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:41 pm

Hype wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:20 am
clickie wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:14 am
It's annoying watching the way Perry pulls the mic from his face constantly like a trombonist
Agreed. But he has been doing this since JA v1.0. The difference now is that his voice sucks.
He snaked that vocal gimmick from Peter Murphy.

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#42 Post by Mescal » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:39 pm

bman wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:02 am
Have the set is Perry talking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1UbB_NuJZY
That's some great lead signing by Etty

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#43 Post by Larry B. » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:54 am

Mescal wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:39 pm
bman wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:02 am
Have the set is Perry talking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1UbB_NuJZY
That's some great lead signing by Etty
Hang on, am I still in my bedroom? For a second I was highly immersed while watching that video.

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#44 Post by phenobarb_bambalam » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:22 pm

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I have no words for what I saw....never again.

Thank fuck they didn't butcher 'Then She Did'.

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#45 Post by Hokahey » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:36 pm

phenobarb_bambalam wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:22 pm
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I have no words for what I saw....never again.

Thank fuck they didn't butcher 'Then She Did'.

Then She Did in that setlist. :lolol: :drink: :jasper:

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#46 Post by JOEinPHX » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:51 pm

phenobarb_bambalam wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:22 pm

I have no words for what I saw....never again.
You can't keep saying "never again" and keep paying for the next trainwreck you know. :lol:

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#47 Post by phenobarb_bambalam » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:39 pm

:lol:

I can only take it one day at a time....and this is day six!

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#48 Post by bman » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:24 pm

Please share some thoughts!

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#49 Post by Artemis » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:51 pm

Yes, more thoughts please.

Honestly, how was Etty?

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#50 Post by phenobarb_bambalam » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:32 pm

Thoughts? Who...me?

Honestly, I knew it would be a mess going in. I had expectations of nothing more than a car crash, and it was exactly that. Had this been billed as anything other than their first performance, I wouldn't have paid the absurd price they charged for the show.

I honestly don't see how this fiasco is much more than Satellite Party 3.0 turned into a Vegas show. I saw in the other thread that there are a load of videos posted, so I assume there is decent documentation of what it looked and sounded like. The theatrics from PEtty and the backing singers was truly cringeworthy. It really is knocking on cabaret's door. Perry's voice was as you would expect, but at least the material is written such that he's not needing to screech. You could barely hear Etty when she spoke into her mic, so I assume the two female backing vocalists carried her as much as the two other male vocals on stage carried Perry. She looked cheap and tacky, as expected...and spent most of the show preening. That is, when she wasn't running to the side of the stage between every other song to get booze.

The songs were always going to be anemic and trite, and they are. Perry's banter was amusing in places. He spoke between every song, but it also made me think of Trumpf when he riffs at a rally, just making up any old shit. He referred to Liberace three times during one speech, which was pretty hilarious given that he looked like him in is goon-wear and orthopedic sneakers.

In the past, I have felt disappointed when I have left, or mugged, or cheated, etc. This was different. It's as all par for the course, and I just felt sad. Sad at what Perry has become, and sad at what his craft has become. As I said to my friend on the way out, it made me think of my dear aunt who had Alzheimer's before she passed away - near the end, you could see the shadow of the person you loved, but they're just a shell. That's Perry, for me.

Then I spent the next two nights with nin, and it just further solidified all of the above. While I have issues with TR's studio work over the last decade, his standards as an artist and performer are so fucking high. And Perry may have given nin a leg up in the early days, but they are essentially peers. Except, Perry is a joke, and Reznor is still honing his craft and at the top of certain aspects of his game.

As I said, never again. I am beyond thankful for the albums I love and the dozens of shows that meant the world to me, but it's long past over.

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