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Predictions....

#1 Post by mockbee » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:29 pm

Like predictions.....?
:noclue:


After Trump, AOC will be our next president in 2024

If Bernie doesn't do it. AOC will come out guns blazing and finally destroy this oblivious Democratic Party, progressives AND people out in the sticks will love her...



We're going full Socialist people, I don't see a middle ground happening.....
(I dont necessarily have a problem with this, just will be critical how it actually plays out.....)
:tiphat:









AOC is hoping for more of this please.... :nod:

lets get them REALLY angry! :thumb:


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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/30/heal ... e=Homepage

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Re: Predictions....

#2 Post by mockbee » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:08 pm

Sorry Panda.....

I know what you are thinking. :lol:


AOC is extremely intelligent. What you see as "dumb" is an act, like Trump.

:wave:






I meant to preface, this prediction assumes there is no coup by any parties (possible) or the populace (very unlikely)

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#3 Post by Larry B. » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:51 pm

Is Trump really going to be re-elected?????

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#4 Post by kv » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:57 pm

Who fucking knows...maybe...and if he is...God knows who will be after him...his daughter, son..pence...Paris Hilton...who fucking knows... :banghead:

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#5 Post by mockbee » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:19 pm

Larry B. wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:51 pm
Is Trump really going to be re-elected?????
Yes.

With 95% certainty. :hehe:

Unless something really wacko happens. :noclue:


Remember this is the predictions page..................

I have kv down for Paris Hilton, next president. :flip:

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#6 Post by mockbee » Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:30 pm

Bernie will never support Biden or Bloomberg for president.

He is going (already had) full populist... Start at 1:30 :tiphat:



Sanders/Biden/Bloomberg not have enough electoral votes by the convention. Biden will be the "compromise" candidate. Chaos... Yadda yadda.... :lol:

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#7 Post by chaos » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:51 pm

I don't know who will end up with the most delegates, but I doubt it will be Bernie. Biden will probably end up dropping out after South Carolina because he is low on funds. More people will end up dropping out after Super Tuesday. After that, In the months leading up the Democratic Convention, I have a feeling people will start to coalesce around a more moderate democrat (whoever is left standing).

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#8 Post by mockbee » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:03 pm

Yes, I meant delegates. :bigrin:

It is very strange because I can't imagine it being bernie, or Bloomberg and really, honestly really not Biden either......

Or anyone else for that matter..... :scared:


Trump runs unopposed..... :lolol:

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#9 Post by SR » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:03 pm

mockbee wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:03 pm
Yes, I meant delegates. :bigrin:

It is very strange because I can't imagine it being bernie, or Bloomberg and really, honestly really not Biden either......

Or anyone else for that matter..... :scared:


Trump runs unopposed..... :lolol:
So, Biden isn't a lock in the mocklibbeelite universe of political omniscience? :hs:

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#10 Post by mockbee » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:44 pm

Oh...it'll happen.


I just can't imagine it. :wink:

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#11 Post by drwintercreeper » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:48 pm

It will end up being Bloomberg. The question I am wondering is will Bernie’s army vote for trump or just stay home. Prediction 1: at least half of that army will vote for trump to spite the d party. But they are young and likely wouldn’t show up in droves anyway.

Prediction 2: the debates this fall will be a contest over who objectifies women less— b or t.
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#12 Post by JOEinPHX » Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:12 pm

I just want Trump to drop dead of a massive stroke during a live televised debate.

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#13 Post by Hype » Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:49 am

In some ways Bloomberg would be worse than Trump. He's a fake democrat who orchestrated Stop & Frisk in NYC, believes all kinds of regressive shit about minorities, and owns a vast media empire that he is using, and could continue to use, to maintain power. Bloomberg, that is, would be closer to Putin than Trump could ever imagine. He's also way smarter than Trump... which makes him even more dangerous. Even if he focuses on traditional centrist democratic policy and commits to selling his business interests if he's elected, as he said he would, it's still almost certainly a terrible idea to elect yet another billionaire who bought the presidency.

At some point there has to be some kind of legislative reckoning on the disconnect between the seemingly democratic election of these non-traditional ultrawealthy candidates and the democratic institutions they seem intent on destroying. We've known since Plato that the inherent threat of democracy is that it so easily devolves into tyranny. Trump's control of the judicial branch, and the Senate's role in allowing that, is showing precisely how that can happen.

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#14 Post by mockbee » Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:58 am

I think Bloomberg will fade pretty quickly (come back to earth with 7-8% support) after the debate and some "real" campaigning. Watching him in early 2000s debate is a pretty dry and uninspiring affair. Also he is short, deal breaker for a ton of people. He can't just ride on the coattails of his bought connections, the real deal has to come out at some point.
People are just desperate at the moment.
:noclue:

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#15 Post by Hype » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:03 am

mockbee wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:58 am
Also he is short
You mean "Jewish", right? :confused:

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#16 Post by mockbee » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:11 am

I agree Bloomberg would likely be worse than Trump. He has WAY more wealth and connections to leverage wealth. Trump is actually "poor" in that respect. His wealth is just slimy and continues a bad precedent, not groundbreaking penetrative like Bloomberg's wealth. He is really really rich and connected...
Bloomberg would be worse. He has some decent adds that are effectively lulling.

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#17 Post by mockbee » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:13 am

Hype wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:03 am
mockbee wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:58 am
Also he is short
You mean "Jewish", right? :confused:
Oh man. See I am not even aware of all the Jewish stereotypes. :noclue:
I just mean ANY short politician has a very hard time being elected. :neutral:

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#18 Post by Hype » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:14 am

If the choice is Trump vs. Bloomberg, probably Bloomberg would be better for the future of the nation, since he doesn't seem to have the same unfettered, stupid, authoritarian streak Trump does. Plus it would avoid emboldening the worst elements of the Republican party into thinking the destructive party could continue. But of course as you suggest, the worry is that Bloomberg is ultimately likely to lose to Trump.

I think Bernie is not likely to win against Trump either, though. And I still think, as I always have, that any woman would have a hard time against Trump because the American electorate still contains a large and unchecked misogynist element (in exactly the same way it contains a height bias; even though Clinton received more votes than Trump, these were regionally locked in precisely the way you'd expect given widespread misogyny outside of coastal cities).
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#19 Post by mockbee » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:15 am

And my wealth comment is purely what it means on its face. I would equally be very ambilivalent about Gates, Bezos, Buffett etc being president.....

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#20 Post by Hype » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:19 am

mockbee wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:15 am
And my wealth comment is purely what it means on its face. I would equally be very ambilivalent about Gates, Bezos, Buffett etc being president.....
Agreed. I think it's 75-25 that Trump gets reelected, though I still think it won't be in Reagan-like fashion. It'll be similar to the last time.

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#21 Post by mockbee » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:22 am

I still think it will be Reagan like. It will depend on the Third party component though. Bloomberg or Bernie going rogue.

With Biden and Bernie pissed/cheated and not running third party and Bloomberg out, not running third.
That is going to be really really rough..... :wave:

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#22 Post by Hype » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:35 am

mockbee wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:22 am
I still think it will be Reagan like. It will depend on the Third party component though. Bloomberg or Bernie going rogue.

With Biden and Bernie pissed/cheated and not running third party and Bloomberg out, not running third.
That is going to be really really rough..... :wave:
Can we resurrect Ross Perot?

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#23 Post by mockbee » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:36 am

Hype wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:14 am
If the choice is Trump vs. Bloomberg, probably Bloomberg would be better for the future of the nation, since he doesn't seem to have the same unfettered, stupid, authoritarian streak Trump does. Plus it would avoid emboldening the worst elements of the Republican party into thinking the destructive party could continue.
I don't know about that. I think Trump is awful for domestic stuff. But his foreign affairs is actually pretty interesting, maybe it's just luck. :hs:
Really like the no wars thing... :noclue:
Domestically, seems to be just a stress test on the constitutional system. And the system seems to be holding for the most part. Maybe it's good it's in the open. This shit has always happened. Just behind closed doors before.

:noclue:
I think Bernie is not likely to win against Trump either, though. And I still think, as I always have, that any woman would have a hard time against Trump because the American electorate still contains a large and unchecked misogynist element (in exactly the same way it contains a height bias; even though Clinton received more votes than Trump, these were regionally locked in precisely the way you'd expect given widespread misogyny outside of coastal cities).
I think a woman can win. Not Warren or Klobuchar though. Clinton could have won if she campaigned smarter in the last couple months. Agreed though on the pervasive misogyny..

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#24 Post by Hype » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:43 am

the system seems to be holding for the most part.
Barely. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/us/p ... -barr.html

If Ginsberg dies in the near future (which is totally possible), the Supreme Court is fucked, and it's unclear how bad this will get for challenges to previous court decisions like Roe v. Wade, etc.

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#25 Post by mockbee » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:46 am

Hype wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:43 am
the system seems to be holding for the most part.
Barely. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/us/p ... -barr.html

If Ginsberg dies in the near future (which is totally possible), the Supreme Court is fucked, and it's unclear how bad this will get for challenges to previous court decisions like Roe v. Wade, etc.
For sure a major concern. The corporate/anti-choice/environmentally destructive courts is the biggest concern.....

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