Perry Farrell on 80s Hard Rock Hit

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Re: Perry Farrell on 80s Hard Rock Hit

#26 Post by clickie » Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:45 am

They probably regret it

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#27 Post by Mescal » Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:50 am

kv wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:42 am
Their debut album, Nothing's Shocking, was released in 1988 on Warner Bros. Records. The album was considered a failure on the music charts only reaching #103 on the Billboard 200, however, the album has since been certified 2× Multi-Platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America. Three singles, "Jane Says", "Mountain Song" and "Ocean Size", were released from the album in 1988 and 1989 respectively. Their debut single "Jane Says", became their first chart entry on the Alternative Songs chart, peaking at #6. The song was one of two songs from Nothing's Shocking to enter any Billboard chart ( "Ocean Size " #36 US Alternative ) .
:noclue: from the wiki...guess you guys forgot about mtv and music videos from years past....don't need a pressed single to tell the radio stations what to play
Well, never seen that Jane says music video either :noclue:

Only heard it was a big hit on college radios

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#28 Post by clickie » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:09 am

Oh I forgot Perry did make the cover of Rolling Stone



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#29 Post by clickie » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:11 am

That was a good article too

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#30 Post by clickie » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:13 am

Never read this one






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#31 Post by clickie » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:18 am

This is the real deal right here





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#32 Post by Hokahey » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:11 am

Hype wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:00 am
Hokahey wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:58 pm
Why did I never realize that Perry's mother committed suicide?
Did you forget? I thought that was pretty well known. That's why she's mentioned in Then She Did... "Will you say hello to my ma? Will you pay a visit to her? She was an artist just as you were... I'd have introduced you to her... She'd repair legs like a doctor, on the kitchen chairs we sat on. She was unhappy just as you were..." etc.

I always thought that was Perry's way of connecting back to his childhood and his mom's suicide. Very cool to learn that's who Ms. Smith is.

Perry's lyrics were at their height when he was being real (even if it was cryptic and hidden) about the loss of important women in his life. That's when Jane's Addiction feels most real to me, anyway.
I mean, of course she died and I was well.aware of those lyrics. I did not realize she specifically died by suicide.

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#33 Post by Hype » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:24 am

Hokahey wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:11 am
Hype wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:00 am
Hokahey wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:58 pm
Why did I never realize that Perry's mother committed suicide?
Did you forget? I thought that was pretty well known. That's why she's mentioned in Then She Did... "Will you say hello to my ma? Will you pay a visit to her? She was an artist just as you were... I'd have introduced you to her... She'd repair legs like a doctor, on the kitchen chairs we sat on. She was unhappy just as you were..." etc.

I always thought that was Perry's way of connecting back to his childhood and his mom's suicide. Very cool to learn that's who Ms. Smith is.

Perry's lyrics were at their height when he was being real (even if it was cryptic and hidden) about the loss of important women in his life. That's when Jane's Addiction feels most real to me, anyway.
I mean, of course she died and I was well.aware of those lyrics. I did not realize she specifically died by suicide.
Huh. I forget what the source was (maybe Hard Rock Comics?) but I swear it was known that Perry "found her" in the bathtub when he was very little? Really awful. Totally makes sense why he and Dave would have bonded and why they are the way they are.

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#34 Post by Hokahey » Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:10 pm

Hype wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:24 am
Hokahey wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:11 am
Hype wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:00 am
Hokahey wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:58 pm
Why did I never realize that Perry's mother committed suicide?
Did you forget? I thought that was pretty well known. That's why she's mentioned in Then She Did... "Will you say hello to my ma? Will you pay a visit to her? She was an artist just as you were... I'd have introduced you to her... She'd repair legs like a doctor, on the kitchen chairs we sat on. She was unhappy just as you were..." etc.

I always thought that was Perry's way of connecting back to his childhood and his mom's suicide. Very cool to learn that's who Ms. Smith is.

Perry's lyrics were at their height when he was being real (even if it was cryptic and hidden) about the loss of important women in his life. That's when Jane's Addiction feels most real to me, anyway.
I mean, of course she died and I was well.aware of those lyrics. I did not realize she specifically died by suicide.
Huh. I forget what the source was (maybe Hard Rock Comics?) but I swear it was known that Perry "found her" in the bathtub when he was very little? Really awful. Totally makes sense why he and Dave would have bonded and why they are the way they are.
Weird. Shows you how much I know. I just like that dog bark song.

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#35 Post by Hype » Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:20 pm

Well, yeah, it’s not like the legend has anything left to it these days. It’s two awesome albums from 30 years ago and a couple of weird things they did after. The rest is worthless.

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#36 Post by Hokahey » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:33 pm

Hype wrote:
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Well, yeah, it’s not like the legend has anything left to it these days. It’s two awesome albums from 30 years ago and a couple of weird things they did after. The rest is worthless.
And as true as that is, those two albums completely changed my life.

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#37 Post by mockbee » Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:34 pm

What's it with people always only referencing the two albums, and not XXX? Just because it wasnt official, or it didnt do it as much for you? :hs:

I mean I found NS first then RDLH, but I think I liked them about as good as Pearl Jam early stuff when it came out. ( like....A LOT) But true lunatic obsession came with finding XXX and the boots. For me anyways....
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#38 Post by Larry B. » Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:59 pm

Hokahey wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:33 pm
Hype wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:20 pm
Well, yeah, it’s not like the legend has anything left to it these days. It’s two awesome albums from 30 years ago and a couple of weird things they did after. The rest is worthless.
And as true as that is, those two albums completely changed my life.
Last night I smoked some weed and listened to Ritual and Deconstruction. It was bliss. I swear I heard those guitar layers like I never did before. There were some Decon songs that must've had like 7 or 8 guitar layers in there.

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#39 Post by Hokahey » Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:43 pm

Larry B. wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:59 pm
Hokahey wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:33 pm
Hype wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:20 pm
Well, yeah, it’s not like the legend has anything left to it these days. It’s two awesome albums from 30 years ago and a couple of weird things they did after. The rest is worthless.
And as true as that is, those two albums completely changed my life.
Last night I smoked some weed and listened to Ritual and Deconstruction. It was bliss. I swear I heard those guitar layers like I never did before. There were some Decon songs that must've had like 7 or 8 guitar layers in there.
It is a musical tragedy of unspeakable proportions that the songs on Deconstruction were not the basis for a 3rd WB Jane's Addiction.

I love some of them, but Eric couldn't take the vocals where Perry could have.

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Re: Perry Farrell on 80s Hard Rock Hit

#40 Post by Hokahey » Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:47 pm

mockbee wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:34 pm
What's it with people always only referencing the two albums, and not XXX? Just because it wasnt official, or it didnt do it as much for you? :hs:

I mean I found NS first then RDLH, but I think I liked them about as good as Pearl Jam early stuff when it came out. ( like....A LOT) But true lunatic obsession came with finding XXX and the boots. For me anyways....
:noclue:
XXX never floored me like the WB albums. It's great, but its a little raw. Perry's vocals were still a bit goth soaked. Not a "life changing" kind of album. Nothings Shocking crosses in to that territory, and then Ritual is one of the greatest albums ever made.

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Re: Perry Farrell on 80s Hard Rock Hit

#41 Post by mockbee » Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:34 pm

Hokahey wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:47 pm
mockbee wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:34 pm
What's it with people always only referencing the two albums, and not XXX? Just because it wasnt official, or it didnt do it as much for you? :hs:

I mean I found NS first then RDLH, but I think I liked them about as good as Pearl Jam early stuff when it came out. ( like....A LOT) But true lunatic obsession came with finding XXX and the boots. For me anyways....
:noclue:

XXX never floored me like the WB albums. It's great, but its a little raw. Perry's vocals were still a bit goth soaked. Not a "life changing" kind of album. Nothings Shocking crosses in to that territory, and then Ritual is one of the greatest albums ever made.
Hmmm ....completely same reasoning but opposite regard for me...
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But I will have to say I liked Ritual better than NS overall at the time.

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#42 Post by kv » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:22 pm

Most people who don't mention xxx were too young to know it when it came out...I loved xxx and always think of Jane's great 3 (I fucking hate covers but loved the ones on xxx)

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#43 Post by clickie » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:40 pm

People sometimes say where were you when this historical event happened . For me it was was when Jane's announced they were breaking up.

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#44 Post by Hype » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:46 pm

kv wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:22 pm
Most people who don't mention xxx were too young to know it when it came out...I loved xxx and always think of Jane's great 3 (I fucking hate covers but loved the ones on xxx)
I love XXX but I don't think of it as a proper record. I thought it was one of those fake indie things a bunch of bands did for fake street cred? Plus the overdubbing of the live stuff? I also think you get a sense of how strained Perry's voice would get live that you don't hear on the studio albums. He was really reaching a lot of the time.

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#45 Post by clickie » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:51 pm

All those great songs on triple x

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#46 Post by clickie » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:52 pm

Always been my favorite Jane's record

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#47 Post by clickie » Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:18 pm

It's like asking what's your favorite Nicolas Cage movie? Most people will say Leaving Las Vegas but a few will say Matchstick Men

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#48 Post by clickie » Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:41 pm

Con Air is classic

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#49 Post by nausearockpig » Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:51 pm

To me XXX is like an EP, with two covers, and two songs that should have been left on NS.... but I can see why they did it. The pre-overdub versions are cool..

XXX is lovely. Definitely part of what defined JA.

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#50 Post by mockbee » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:28 am

For me Jane's is a live band. Great on record, but go beyond live. And most live recordings beat the proper albums for me. XXX was that step towards live that put them over the top for me....
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Funny I havent listened to the albums proper in years (decades....?), sometimes listen to a track if it comes up. But I still listen to shitty boots all the time. Like Mt Baldy. What a shit recording and so much stuggle to keep the show going. But I feel that struggle so intensely each time I listen to it. It gives me chills every time....

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