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Re: Coronavirus

#751 Post by Pandemonium » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:25 am

What is it with MILFs and temper tantrums in stores over having to wear a mask?


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Re: Coronavirus

#752 Post by mockbee » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:51 am

Misogyny.

In our society women's only real value is their looks.

We're trying to do better, but....unfortunately for the most part that is still pervasive and the truth in our media saturated/appearance obsessed culture.

Put a mask on. What do you have left. Little to no value, in our society. Yeah, sure, raise the kids, but we put little to no value on that either. Get the nannys from central america or pay daycare minimum wage to do that job....

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Re: Coronavirus

#753 Post by chaos » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:06 am

(There is a 30 second commercial in the beginning of clip; the QAnon guy at .30 and 1:30 is :crazy: )

Why is a state mandate unenforceable in California?

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Re: Coronavirus

#754 Post by chaos » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:08 am

Bebe woman update:

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Re: Coronavirus

#755 Post by mockbee » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:41 am

chaos wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:06 am


Why is a state mandate unenforceable in California?
Oh, it's enforceable. https://www.capradio.org/articles/2020/ ... perts-say/
But the police know it's not in their best interest to enforce it.

Liberals love enacting laws, but hate enforcing them. Laws are for all the other people, not me.
Just like increased taxes are for all the OTHER people, the RICH people! (not me....)

And even if it is Cali, it is still first and foremost the West.
Don't tell me what to do.... law number one.

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Re: Coronavirus

#756 Post by chaos » Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:01 pm

The park employees outside Runyon Canyon simply "remind" people of the mandate. They seem to have no authority to deny entry.

In Massachusetts, you can be denied entry and issued a fine. People will get arrested if they become belligerent. When I see the stuff going on in other states, it's as though I am watching something from the Twilight Zone.

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Re: Coronavirus

#757 Post by chaos » Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:07 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... pdates-us/

June 29, 2020
3:41 p.m. EDT

Florida reports high in rolling seven-day average of new cases for 22nd day in a row

Florida reported 5,266 new cases of the coronavirus Monday, as well as 28 deaths, bringing the total number of cases and deaths in the state during the coronavirus pandemic to 146,341 and 3,447, respectively.

Although the new daily case number was lower than the day before, as a rolling seven-day average it was a record high at 6,589, according to data compiled by The Washington Post.

For the past 22 days, the rolling average has continually set a record each day. A number of other states are on similar streaks — South Carolina has set a record on its rolling seven-day average for 21 days, while Texas has for 19 days.

Florida’s rolling seven-day average has risen by 102 percent since a week ago, an increase second only to Louisiana, where the seven-day average is 123 percent higher than a week ago. The state’s seven-day average of new deaths has also increased: It is now 15 percent higher than last week.
By Adam Taylor
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... pdates-us/

June 29, 2020
3:25 p.m. EDT

Jacksonville, Fla., host of Republican National Convention, orders mask-wearing

Jacksonville, the largest city in Florida and host of the Republican National Convention planned for late August, announced Monday that masks will be mandatory in public and indoor locations, as well as in “other situations where individuals cannot socially distance.”

City spokeswoman Nikki Kimbleton told The Washington Post that whether the mandate applies to the convention will be addressed “as we get closer to the event,” noting that it “is still two months away.”

The mask order, which goes into effect Monday evening, is a turn for Mayor Lenny Curry. The former Republican Party of Florida chairman has been “ideologically resistant to passing government mandates,” Politico reported. He said a week ago that he did not plan to issue an order on masks, according to News4Jax, although he encouraged mask-wearing as “the responsible thing.”

“Wearing a mask is not a political statement,” the news station quoted Curry as saying at the time. “It’s about protecting yourself and your loved ones and your neighbors.”

Republicans announced earlier this month that the premier festivities of their convention would be held in Jacksonville instead of Charlotte, after North Carolina officials balked at Trump’s demand to host a mass gathering amid the coronavirus pandemic.

The GOP began its last-minute search for a new site after the president tweeted that he would move the event if he couldn’t get a commitment for large-scale crowds to be permitted. RNC officials had called for a convention with tens of thousands of attendees. They pledged to conduct temperature checks and make masks available.

Trump at one point phoned North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper (D) to lay out his demands for the convention, telling him “we can’t do social distancing.” State officials pressed for a detailed plan on how the convention would be safely hosted.

By June 11, the RNC had announced that Trump’s renomination speech and other major convention features would move to Jacksonville.



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Re: Coronavirus

#758 Post by Hokahey » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:37 pm

The 7 day rolling average for deaths appears to be the lowest its been since this started. I'm very curious if that will tick up. One would certainly think, but if it is indeed mostly younger people driving the new/rebound wave and they're not going on to infect more vulnerable people, then that's one positive i suppose.

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Re: Coronavirus

#759 Post by Charles » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:56 am

Larry B. wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:40 pm
Do strangers in the US ever interact without one accusing the other of harassment, racism, sexism, violation of freedoms, sexual abuse, etc?
Very rare...

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Re: Coronavirus

#760 Post by mockbee » Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:49 pm

Today in Oregon.

Would it be weird if I said this doesn't surprise me in the least?
Even the "F*** the governor" response by a State Trooper in a liberal town...

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Oregon State Police don’t wear coronavirus masks while patronizing coffee shop, despite governor’s order
By Brad Schmidt | The Oregonian/OregonLive

https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/ ... order.html

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A group of Oregon State Police troopers appeared to defy Gov. Kate Brown’s statewide mask order while in uniform Wednesday, entering a Corvallis coffee shop without wearing required face coverings, video obtained by The Oregonian/OregonLive shows.

The store’s assistant manager, Travis Boss, said he told the first trooper who arrived that the trooper needed to wear a mask.

“Governor Brown has no authority to take our civil liberties. We aren’t going to wear masks,” the trooper allegedly said, according to a written statement from Boss provided to the newsroom.

The trooper proceeded to place his order, Boss said in an interview, offering a foul-mouthed retort to the governor’s mandate that masks be worn within indoor public spaces.

“He said, ‘F---, Kate Brown,’” Boss recalled.

The trooper’s alleged comments came on the same day that Brown’s statewide mask order went into effect, and just hours before Brown implored Oregonians to wear facial coverings as a “simple, common sense way to protect yourself and others” during the coronavirus pandemic.

Three other law enforcement officers entered the business moments later and also refused a request to wear masks, Boss said. Boss said he felt compelled to fulfill their drink orders because they were in uniform, even though he said he had sent other patrons away earlier for not wearing masks.

The incident represents an extraordinary example of the difficult position that Brown has put some businesses in as they work to enforce the potentially divisive rule. Workers in shops across Oregon have been left to impose the mask mandate with the knowledge that some customers may disobey or, as videos across the country have shown, create made-for-internet spectacles.


Allan’s Coffee & Tea reported Wednesday’s incident to local police. Oregon State Police responded by launching an internal investigation, said Capt. Timothy Fox, an agency spokesman.


“The involved trooper has been placed on administrative leave,” Fox said in a statement. “OSP is early in the investigation, but if found to be true, we are thoroughly disappointed and expect our troopers to follow the governor’s executive orders and be examples in the community.”

Fox confirmed Thursday that all four were state troopers but he would not name the trooper on leave.

Oregon State Police Superintendent Travis Hampton addressed the issue Thursday morning, less than three hours after The Oregonian/OregonLive published this story online. Hampton wrote on Twitter that the conduct described in the article was “embarrassing and indefensible,” especially as thousands protest each night in Oregon for police accountability in the wake of George Floyd’s death.

“Let me be clear, Oregon State Police Troopers are not above the law and this conduct is being immediately addressed,” Hampton wrote. “As the leader of the Oregon State Police, I would like to offer my apology to the coffee shop employees and the community.”




Brown also issued a statement Thursday afternoon, echoing Hampton’s response.

“It is inexcusable that a few Oregon State Troopers disregarded my face covering requirement yesterday, and ignored a request from a fellow Oregonian to follow the rule,” she said. “Oregon State Police Superintendent Hampton and I agree that their actions and behaviors were absolutely unacceptable.”

The incident in Corvallis underscores the tension nationwide among some people over whether masks should be worn to prevent the spread of coronavirus, which has killed more than 128,000 Americans, including 208 in Oregon.

Although the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends wearing masks in public, President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence have repeatedly refused to don facial coverings. Masks have become a flashpoint that often fall along political lines.

The co-owners of Allan’s Coffee & Tea, Robert and Kathryn Morgan, said Wednesday they respect the work of troopers and did not want the incident to turn political. In fact, the business brews a special “Oregon State Police blend” at their shop in Albany, near the troopers’ offices.

The co-owners said they simply want to comply with Brown’s mask mandate and keep their business open for patrons.

Brown’s mask order does not explicitly name coffee shops but applies to restaurants, bars, breweries, brewpubs, wineries, tasting rooms and distilleries. Masks “are not required while eating or drinking,” according to state guidance.

“We’re in this to follow the mandate,” Robert Morgan said, “to try to get back to some form of normalcy somewhere down the road.”

Wednesday’s incident began at about 8:30 a.m. when a trooper wearing shorts and a bullet-proof vest entered the Allan’s location on Northwest Monroe Avenue, next to Oregon State University.

Video shows the unmasked trooper walking to the counter, where Boss greets him. The video, provided to the newsroom by the business, does not have audio.

Boss said the trooper is a regular, and they have a friendly rapport.

“Hey, you gotta have your mask on,” Boss recalled saying. Boss said the trooper declined.

The video shows Boss and the trooper talking for more than 30 seconds before Boss grabs a cup, giving it to the nearby barista to use to fill the order.

Boss said he initially tried to diffuse the situation by asking the trooper what he thought about Brown’s order requiring masks. That prompted the alleged response that it would be a violation of civil liberties, Boss said.

Boss said the trooper also noted that police would not be enforcing violations and said something like: “I’m not going to wear a mask and none of us are,” in anticipation of more troopers arriving.

That left Boss in a weird situation.

“He’s a state trooper, he’s in uniform,” Boss said. “He’s more or less saying, ‘This is how it’s going to be, and this is what I want.’”

The video shows three more people in uniform arrive, none wearing masks. One wears a vest that appears to say “State Trooper,” video footage shows. The second wears a vest that appears to say “State Police.” The third does not have a vest over his uniform but has a star-shaped badge pinned to his chest.

After they placed their orders, the group sits at a table near the door. The video footage shows several other customers enter the business later, one of whom does not wear a mask when he places an order with the barista.

The troopers remain for about 10 minutes, according to the video footage.

Boss said two of the troopers are regulars and he expected them to leave after getting their drinks, which they usually do. Boss said he contacted the owners to determine what he should do next.

Boss said he was instructed to tell them that Corvallis police had been contacted and they should leave. The video shows Boss approaching them at their table, and the troopers stand up to go.

One of the troopers allegedly said, “That’s Corvallis for you,” as they walked out, Boss recalled.

Having law enforcement officers in the shop without wearing masks created a “horrible situation,” Boss said, upsetting some customers who questioned why they had to wear masks when the police did not.

Kathryn Morgan said they expected some customers would not want to comply with Brown’s mask order. But she found it “pretty upsetting” that the troopers would not wear masks, putting their business in an awkward position of being at risk for not following the rules.

“It’s sad,” she said. “These are people in a position of power and leaders in the community. I think we look to them as examples. For them not to be following the orders, whether or not they agree with it, is telling.”

A lieutenant from the Oregon State Police arrived at the coffee shop later in the morning to talk with Boss, and Robert Morgan participated via speaker phone. Boss said he explained what happened and what the trooper said, including the alleged use of profanity.

“I don’t hold any grudges against him,” Boss said. “I feel bad about the possible backlash that might come from this, on them, and at the same time I know that’s not my doing.”

Robert Morgan said the lieutenant didn’t apologize for the incident but assured them it would not be swept under the rug.

All the same, Robert Morgan said the lieutenant told them they could share the information with whomever they wanted but “but they would prefer to keep it as an internal matter.”

Robert and Kathryn Morgan said they wrestled with whether to go public but decided to do so, hoping it would ensure everyone follows the mask order with the goal of reducing coronavirus spread and helping businesses stay open.

Brown’s office didn’t respond to a request for comment Wednesday evening.

But earlier in the day – just hours after the incident – Brown had told reporters during a morning news conference that she expected businesses to comply with the mask order to protect patrons and employees.

“I know that Oregonians will literally vote with their feet,” she said. “They will go to businesses that are taking extra efforts to ensure that their customers and their clients are safe and protected from COVID-19.”

Brown made clear that violation of the order could be a misdemeanor, although she did not expect police to write tickets nor did she want businesses to contact officers for help with disobedient customers.

“We shouldn’t have to be in the position of calling the police to enforce face coverings,” Brown said. “It’s just common sense, folks.”

-- Brad Schmidt; bschmidt@oregonian.com; 503-294-7628; @_brad_schmidt


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Re: Coronavirus

#761 Post by Artemis » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:34 pm

WTF?? :mad:



https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?cid=sm%3At ... b70N4yi8-s

People in Alabama are throwing COVID-19 parties with a payout when one gets infected.

Some young people in Alabama are throwing COVID-19 parties, a disturbing competition where people who have coronavirus attend and the first person to get infected receives a payout, local officials said.

The parties are being held in Tuscaloosa, and infected people are urged to attend so others can intentionally contract the virus, City Council member Sonya McKinstry told CNN. She said she heard about the trend from fire officials.

"We thought that was kind of a rumors at first. We did some research, not only do the doctors' offices confirm it, but the state confirmed they also had the same information," she said.

During a presentation to the City Council this week, Fire Chief Randy Smith also said young people in the city are throwing parties with a payout if they catch coronavirus, McKinstry said.

The first person confirmed by a doctor to have coronavirus after the exposure wins the money made off the ticket sales, she said. Over the past few weeks, there have been several parties in the city and surrounding areas, and probably more that officials don't know about, she added.

"It makes me furious," McKinstry said. "Furious to the fact that something that is so serious and deadly is being taken for granted. Not only is it irresponsible, but you could contract the virus and take it home to your parents or grandparents."

The city is working on getting the word out and breaking up such parties. It also passed a mask ordinance this week that goes into effect Monday.

"This is not political. This is a public health issue. People are dying and there is no cure. We have to do whatever we can to save as many lives as possible, McKinstry said.

CNN has reached out to the Alabama Health Department for comment. The state has reported about 39,000 confirmed coronavirus cases and nearly 1,000 deaths.
Another day where cases exceed 50,000 in the US. Tomorrow the 3 million mark will be reached.

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Re: Coronavirus

#762 Post by clickie » Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:13 pm

Thats a trend in county jails too now. Get Covid and you get an early release.

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Re: Coronavirus

#763 Post by clickie » Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:19 pm

Mike Tyson is immune to it



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Re: Coronavirus

#764 Post by clickie » Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:34 pm

I punched Iron Mike for not wearing his mask properly

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Re: Coronavirus

#765 Post by mockbee » Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:10 pm

Does AL need any State Troopers?

We got some good ones in OR for ya!

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Re: Coronavirus

#766 Post by Larry B. » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:47 pm

SOoooo

Haven’t really left the house for more than an hour since March 1st.

Tomorrow, I’ll leane to spend the weekend alone. Everything good in the house, I just finished my semester and felt I needed a few days on my own. I’m taking some recreational stuff with me, and I’ve got plenty of football to watch. Should be a bit relaxing.

Aside from that, it’s good ol’fascist Chile. Not much has changed. Less testing = less results = less positive results, so Jesus is clearly healing us.

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Re: Coronavirus

#767 Post by Bandit72 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:46 am

Larry B. wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:47 pm
so Jesus is clearly healing us.
It doesn't matter what you do. Your life has already been decided for you. Every decision you make has been pre-determined. You are owned by your creator. And because your "free will" has not allowed you to follow his path, you'll be burning in hell fire for eternity after you die.



















Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand LOL.

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Re: Coronavirus

#768 Post by Larry B. » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:35 am

:lol:

Covid is god’s mysterious ways of helping us cope with bad stuff like global warming, bisexuals, synchronised swimming and the Irish.

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Re: Coronavirus

#769 Post by Artemis » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:20 pm

I went to my first social occasion about 10 days ago. It was supposed to be 5 people and ended up 10. A couple of the people there didn't take COVID seriously and felt that the government was controlling people and business...very similar to the anti-maskers in the US. I declined hug&kiss greetings and got a couple of eye rolls, Also when joints were being passed around, I declined because I didn't want to share saliva. One of the guys rolled me my own and of course there were more eye rolls. Fuck those guys! I would rather be excessive in taking precautions than infecting my mom or getting sick myself. That day I also took the subway and GO train(commuter train) for the first time in over 3 months. I wore a mask and was happy to see that most people did too. The ones who didn't really stuck out and were getting the stink eye. I was an anxious, nervous wreck the whole time though. I have been using the bus regularly but staying within a 5km range from my place and my mom's.
In my my province we are still in stage 2 of opening up businesses. I haven't gone for a haircut or patio drink/meal yet. I'm going to wait and see if there are any spikes or outbreaks first. I'm still working from home but I think my company is planning for a return to the office in the fall. It will be modified, not sure of the details yet. Everything depends on the government regulations and cases remaining low.
Overall, Canada is doing pretty well for the moment. According to the Coronavirus World Meter we've had 308 new cases in the last 24hrs and 9 deaths. Total deaths: 8,746.
I think our border with the US will remain closed until the end of the year for sure, if not longer.

Hope everyone and their loved ones are well. :wave:

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Re: Coronavirus

#770 Post by kv » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:20 pm

Ya getting the same eyerolls from people I played music with till March...their grief isn't gonna matter for shit if you got your mom sick...fuck em

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Re: Coronavirus

#771 Post by chaos » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:42 am



https://www.yahoo.com/news/mask-resista ... 58176.html

Mask resistance during a pandemic isn't new – in 1918 many Americans were 'slackers'
J. Alexander Navarro, Assistant Director, Center for the History of Medicine, University of Michigan
The Conversation July 13, 2020, 7:53 AM

We have all seen the alarming headlines: Coronavirus cases are surging in 40 states, with new cases and hospitalization rates climbing at an alarming rate. Health officials have warned that the U.S. must act quickly to halt the spread – or we risk losing control over the pandemic.

There’s a clear consensus that Americans should wear masks in public and continue to practice proper social distancing. While a majority of Americans support wearing masks, widespread and consistent compliance has proven difficult to maintain in communities across the country. Demonstrators gathered outside city halls in Scottsdale, Arizona; Austin, Texas; and other cities to protest local mask mandates. Several South Carolina sheriffs have announced they will not enforce their state’s mask order.

I’ve researched the history of the 1918 pandemic extensively. At that time, with no effective vaccine or drug therapies, communities across the country instituted a host of public health measures to slow the spread of a deadly influenza epidemic: They closed schools and businesses, banned public gatherings and isolated and quarantined those who were infected. Many communities recommended or required that citizens wear face masks in public – and this, not the onerous lockdowns, drew the most ire.

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Policemen in Seattle, Washington, wearing masks made by the Red Cross, during the influenza pandemic, December 1918 National Archives

In mid-October of 1918, amidst a raging epidemic in the Northeast and rapidly growing outbreaks nationwide, the United States Public Health Service circulated leaflets recommending that all citizens wear a mask. The Red Cross took out newspaper ads encouraging their use and offered instructions on how to construct masks at home using gauze and cotton string. Some state health departments launched their own initiatives, most notably California, Utah and Washington.

Nationwide, posters presented mask-wearing as a civic duty – social responsibility had been embedded into the social fabric by a massive wartime federal propaganda campaign launched in early 1917 when the U.S. entered the Great War. San Francisco Mayor James Rolph announced that “conscience, patriotism and self-protection demand immediate and rigid compliance” with mask wearing. In nearby Oakland, Mayor John Davie stated that “it is sensible and patriotic, no matter what our personal beliefs may be, to safeguard our fellow citizens by joining in this practice” of wearing a mask.

Health officials understood that radically changing public behavior was a difficult undertaking, especially since many found masks uncomfortable to wear. Appeals to patriotism could go only so far. As one Sacramento official noted, people “must be forced to do the things that are for their best interests.” The Red Cross bluntly stated that “the man or woman or child who will not wear a mask now is a dangerous slacker.” Numerous communities, particularly across the West, imposed mandatory ordinances. Some sentenced scofflaws to short jail terms, and fines ranged from US$5 to $200.

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Collage of newspaper headlines related to the previous year’s influenza pandemic, Chicago, Illinois, 1919. Headlines include ‘Police Raid Saloons in War on Influenza,’ ‘Flu Curfew to Sound for City Saturday Night’ and ‘Open-Face Sneezers to Be Arrested.’ Chicago History Museum/Getty Images

Passing these ordinances was frequently a contentious affair. For example, it took several attempts for Sacramento’s health officer to convince city officials to enact the order. In Los Angeles, it was scuttled. A draft resolution in Portland, Oregon led to heated city council debate, with one official declaring the measure “autocratic and unconstitutional,” adding that “under no circumstances will I be muzzled like a hydrophobic dog.” It was voted down.

Utah’s board of health considered issuing a mandatory statewide mask order but decided against it, arguing that citizens would take false security in the effectiveness of masks and relax their vigilance. As the epidemic resurged, Oakland tabled its debate over a second mask order after the mayor angrily recounted his arrest in Sacramento for not wearing a mask. A prominent physician in attendance commented that “if a cave man should appear…he would think the masked citizens all lunatics.”

In places where mask orders were successfully implemented, noncompliance and outright defiance quickly became a problem. Many businesses, unwilling to turn away shoppers, wouldn’t bar unmasked customers from their stores. Workers complained that masks were too uncomfortable to wear all day. One Denver salesperson refused because she said her “nose went to sleep” every time she put one on. Another said she believed that “an authority higher than the Denver Department of Health was looking after her well-being.” As one local newspaper put it, the order to wear masks “was almost totally ignored by the people; in fact, the order was cause of mirth.” The rule was amended to apply only to streetcar conductors – who then threatened to strike. A walkout was averted when the city watered down the order yet again. Denver endured the remainder of the epidemic without any measures protecting public health.

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Precautions taken during the 1918 flu pandemic would not allow anyone to ride street cars without a mask. Here, a conductor bars an unmasked passenger from boarding. Universal History Archive/Getty Images

In Seattle, streetcar conductors refused to turn away unmasked passengers. Noncompliance was so widespread in Oakland that officials deputized 300 War Service civilian volunteers to secure the names and addresses of violators so they could be charged. When a mask order went into effect in Sacramento, the police chief instructed officers to “Go out on the streets, and whenever you see a man without a mask, bring him in or send for the wagon.” Within 20 minutes, police stations were flooded with offenders. In San Francisco, there were so many arrests that the police chief warned city officials he was running out of jail cells. Judges and officers were forced to work late nights and weekends to clear the backlog of cases.

Many who were caught without masks thought they might get away with running an errand or commuting to work without being nabbed. In San Francisco, however, initial noncompliance turned to large-scale defiance when the city enacted a second mask ordinance in January 1919 as the epidemic spiked anew. Many decried what they viewed as an unconstitutional infringement of their civil liberties. On January 25, 1919, approximately 2,000 members of the “Anti-Mask League” packed the city’s old Dreamland Rink for a rally denouncing the mask ordinance and proposing ways to defeat it. Attendees included several prominent physicians and a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors.

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Poster of a Red Cross nurse wearing a gauze mask over her nose and mouth – with tips to prevent the influenza pandemic. The National Library of Medicine/NIH

It is difficult to ascertain the effectiveness of the masks used in 1918. Today, we have a growing body of evidence that well-constructed cloth face coverings are an effective tool in slowing the spread of COVID-19. It remains to be seen, however, whether Americans will maintain the widespread use of face masks as our current pandemic continues to unfold. Deeply entrenched ideals of individual freedom, the lack of cohesive messaging and leadership on mask wearing, and pervasive misinformation have proven to be major hindrances thus far, precisely when the crisis demands consensus and widespread compliance. This was certainly the case in many communities during the fall of 1918. That pandemic ultimately killed about 675,000 people in the U.S. Hopefully, history is not in the process of repeating itself today.

This article is republished from The Conversation, a nonprofit news site dedicated to sharing ideas from academic experts.

The University of Michigan Center for the History of Medicine received funding from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for a portion of its research on the 1918 influenza pandemic. J. Alexander Navarro was a member of that team of researchers.

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Re: Coronavirus

#772 Post by mockbee » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:50 am

Very Interesting article.... :tiphat:




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https://www.yahoo.com/news/mask-resista ... 58176.html

Mask resistance during a pandemic isn't new – in 1918 many Americans were 'slackers'
J. Alexander Navarro, Assistant Director, Center for the History of Medicine, University of Michigan
The Conversation July 13, 2020, 7:53 AM

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Demonstrators gathered outside city halls in Scottsdale, Arizona; Austin, Texas; and other cities to protest local mask mandates.

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Policemen in Seattle, Washington, wearing masks made by the Red Cross, during the influenza pandemic, December 1918 National Archives



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Passing these ordinances was frequently a contentious affair. For example, it took several attempts for Sacramento’s health officer to convince city officials to enact the order. In Los Angeles, it was scuttled. A draft resolution in Portland, Oregon led to heated city council debate, with one official declaring the measure “autocratic and unconstitutional,” adding that “under no circumstances will I be muzzled like a hydrophobic dog.” It was voted down.

Utah’s board of health considered issuing a mandatory statewide mask order but decided against it, arguing that citizens would take false security in the effectiveness of masks and relax their vigilance. As the epidemic resurged, Oakland tabled its debate over a second mask order after the mayor angrily recounted his arrest in Sacramento for not wearing a mask. A prominent physician in attendance commented that “if a cave man should appear…he would think the masked citizens all lunatics.”

In places where mask orders were successfully implemented, noncompliance and outright defiance quickly became a problem. Many businesses, unwilling to turn away shoppers, wouldn’t bar unmasked customers from their stores. Workers complained that masks were too uncomfortable to wear all day. One Denver salesperson refused because she said her “nose went to sleep” every time she put one on. Another said she believed that “an authority higher than the Denver Department of Health was looking after her well-being.” As one local newspaper put it, the order to wear masks “was almost totally ignored by the people; in fact, the order was cause of mirth.” The rule was amended to apply only to streetcar conductors – who then threatened to strike. A walkout was averted when the city watered down the order yet again. Denver endured the remainder of the epidemic without any measures protecting public health

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In Seattle, streetcar conductors refused to turn away unmasked passengers. Noncompliance was so widespread in Oakland that officials deputized 300 War Service civilian volunteers to secure the names and addresses of violators so they could be charged. When a mask order went into effect in Sacramento, the police chief instructed officers to “Go out on the streets, and whenever you see a man without a mask, bring him in or send for the wagon.” Within 20 minutes, police stations were flooded with offenders. In San Francisco, there were so many arrests that the police chief warned city officials he was running out of jail cells. Judges and officers were forced to work late nights and weekends to clear the backlog of cases.

Many who were caught without masks thought they might get away with running an errand or commuting to work without being nabbed. In San Francisco, however, initial noncompliance turned to large-scale defiance when the city enacted a second mask ordinance in January 1919 as the epidemic spiked anew. Many decried what they viewed as an unconstitutional infringement of their civil liberties. On January 25, 1919, approximately 2,000 members of the “Anti-Mask League” packed the city’s old Dreamland Rink for a rally denouncing the mask ordinance and proposing ways to defeat it. Attendees included several prominent physicians and a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors.


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#773 Post by Artemis » Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:59 am

Border closure extended to August 21st.


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#774 Post by mockbee » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:10 pm

Things going great here.
Going to get much better soon!
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We'll have that border open lickity split. :thumb:

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#775 Post by mockbee » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:17 pm

Florida has more Covid-19 than most countries in the world. These stats show how serious the problem is

(CNN) — What should be a booming tourist destination this time of year is now riddled with coronavirus, dwarfing other states and even entire countries in some metrics.

Here’s what the situation in Florida looks like:

Florida had more new cases in 1 day than the entire US did in about 2 months
Florida reported its highest number of new Covid-19 cases in one day — 15,300 on Saturday, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.


That’s a new record for the most new cases in a single day from any state — including New York state earlier in the pandemic.

It took the entire United States 59 days to top 15,000 combined cases — from January 21 to March 20.

It also took the entire US more than two months from the start of the outbreak to top 15,000 new cases in a single day.


That happened on March 26, when the US had 18,036 new cases in a single day, according to Johns Hopkins data.

Florida has 12x the cases of Australia and South Korea combined
Australia and South Korea both have more people than Florida, but both countries have seen just a fraction of the Covid-19 cases that Florida has.

Australia (population 25 million) has had 9,980 cases of Covid-19, according to data Monday from Johns Hopkins University.

South Korea (population 51 million) has had 13,479 coronavirus cases as of Monday.

Florida (population 21 million) has had 282,435 Covid-19 cases by Monday, according to Johns Hopkins.

In other words, Florida’s Covid-19 cases has topped Australia’s and South Korea’s combined — times 12.

Florida’s Covid-19 death toll is like 10 jumbo jets crashing
At least 4,277 Floridians have died from Covid-19.

A Boeing 747 plane can carry about 400 passengers. That means the coronavirus death toll from Florida is about the same as if 10 jumbo jets crashed, killing everyone on board.

Florida has triple the number of China’s Covid-19 cases
Six months ago, the world thought this new coronavirus was contained to China — specifically, the Wuhan area.

But now, the entire country of China has less than 1/3 the total Covid-19 cases that Florida does, according to Johns Hopkins data. As of Monday, China had 85,117 total cases since the pandemic started, compared to Florida’s 282,435.

Florida has surpassed Italy in Covid-19 cases, too
Italy came under worldwide scrutiny for its handling of Covid-19 as the disease quickly spread out of control.

But after strict government mandates, the country has managed to quell the virus and has largely returned to normal.

As of Monday, Italy (population 60 million) had 243,230 cases from throughout the pandemic. Florida (population 21 million) has already surpassed that number, at 282,435.

Florida’s death toll, however, remains lower than Italy’s — 4,277 in Florida, compared to 34,954 in Italy.

Florida has more Covid-19 cases than most countries
If Florida were a country, it would rank No. 9 in the number of Covid-19 cases worldwide, according to Johns Hopkins data Monday.

Eight countries have higher counts than Florida: the United States, Brazil, India, Russia, Peru, Chile, Mexico, and the United Kingdom.

And more than 100 countries have fewer Covid-19 cases than Florida, including France, Ger

weeeeeeeeeeeeeee........

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