Who is going to win the election - Nov 3, 2020 - Biden or Trump.....?

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Who is going to win the election - Nov 3 2020 Biden or Trump.....?

BIDEN - without a doubt, he has gained the confidence of the country. Trump has given up and has no chance.
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15%
Most likely Biden - greater than 75% chance. He is a flawed candidate but I really don't see him losing at this point.
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45%
Hard to tell still, a lot can happen.....could really go both ways still.
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25%
Most likely Trump - greater than 75% chance. He is a flawed candidate but I really don't see him losing at this point.
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5%
TRUMP - without a doubt, he is a master manipulator and persuader. Biden is completely incompetent and/or incapable at this point.
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10%
 
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Re: Who is going to win the election - Nov 3, 2020 - Biden or Trump.....?

#51 Post by Hokahey » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:40 am

I can't fucking believe it.

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#52 Post by chaos » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:27 am

Ladies and Gentlemen,

The First Pets of the United States - Champ and Major:

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#53 Post by kv » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:23 pm

Thank fuck... We don't need any more white houses without a dog

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Re: Who is going to win the election - Nov 3, 2020 - Biden or Trump.....?

#54 Post by mockbee » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:21 am

No current valid claims of major (or even much minor) fraud.
Check.

No current valid claims of major (or even much minor) bureaucratic ineptitude.
Check.

No current valid claims of major (or even much minor) out of the ordinary shenanigans.
Check.



But.....there have been A LOT of rumblings about the double vote.

There are many many rolls in swing states that have not been updated to cancel double votes.
Yeah, both repubs and dems double voted, but it was the Dems deal to mail in.....major, major push to mail in for the dems.
Repubs didn't trust the mail and just went to the polls. For the most part that I have observed in the general goings on of people I know who without a doubt voted for Trump (most all the people outside the city limits.....) did not double vote, they don't do mail.

You don't think that +100,000 Dems double voted, out of 5.5 million cast in MI or 6.8 million cast in PA.....?
Not saying there was malicious intent involved, just an overabundance of caution....?

Also, millions of Americans are, honest to god, trying to get rid of Hitler....right?......right?
They are not just trying to get rid of a buffoon who is generally incompetent and quite crass and crude. It's HITLER. :neutral:
I'm being serious. And I know a lot of people here think the above statement themselves.
Then why the fuck would people NOT double vote and do everything they POSSIBLY could to prevent HITLER......? :noclue:

You'd be a traitor to this country if you didn't do everything humanly possible to prevent Trump from winning another term.
You would be a patriot for doing so.

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So if you voted by mail, and if you have been tracking your ballot and either the post office still has it/or it’s not been accepted, you can STILL vote in person tomorrow.
Your mail-in would then be invalidated and your in-person ballot would be counted
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I think I have come across some people that mailed it in and went in. Don't you guys have a number you can call to inquire about this?
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I worded this all arse backwards lol. They were kinda two separate thoughts
I think repubs (trump) are on it..... :waits: :drink:
I think we are going to see big movements in the next week or two.....:noclue:

We just might have two presidents........... :scared: :hehe:

One constitutionally (Supreme Court) appointed.....
and the other appointed by the Press. :nod:

Who knows.....maybe I am wrong. :noclue:
But I really was quite surprised by the final result......... :bored:

No one can say the polls were even in the stratosphere of being correct (except for possibly Trafalgar....the conservative wacky one :wink: )


I don't need/want Trump to win..... I just want a fair election and desperately want a thriving democracy and peace.
Whoever we get there with, I don't care.
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#55 Post by mockbee » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:28 am

Trump is currently within 80,000 votes of a legitimate Electoral College victory.
Out of +140,000,000 votes cast.
And +2,800,000 absentee/etc votes have still not been counted.....
None (0) of the Electoral College votes have been cast yet.

Biden has only been christened the winner by the Press.
Sincere CONGRATS to Biden for the victory, as we see it now, and as our society/culture has adopted to accept as due course... :tiphat:
But that's it....... :noclue:

I am not saying there is a conspiracy afoot, or any malicious activity is being carried out.
Just due process is faaaaar from over.
Constitution will rule...... :essence:
Thank goodness....right? :noclue:
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#56 Post by tvrec » Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:54 am

I've worked California polls for about 2 decades, so I can speak to my experiences there and how mail & in-person voting is set up to prevent and litigate double-voting, not that those procedures are the same in every state (or even every county within a state, since those differ in processes too). When voters in California are mailed a ballot, as they were in total across my county and I believe across the entire state, the voter roster assigns the voter the status of vote-by-mail. If voters turns up at a polling station requesting to vote in person, they have three options: drop off the completed mail ballot, signed and sealed; surrender their ballot that was mailed to them, which is then "spoiled" immediately in front of the voter so that it cannot tabulated (and set, rather than in the ballot box, in a separate envelope for spoiled ballots). The roster clerk then has to record in the register that the voter surrendered the other ballot and then the voter signs in next to their info, including a voter specific bar code, and votes in person using the voting equipment with a user specific access code. Everything is cross-referenced and easily traceable; or, if they say they don't have the ballot or never received it or what have you, they have to vote provisionally, which means that they have to fill out a whole slew of info including things like a state ID or drivers license number and testify under criminal charges that they have not double-voted. These ballots are individuated and not included in any tabulation of voting until the county registrar can verify each person's eligibility to vote and that they have voted only once. All this is to say, the system has safe guards in place for this hypothetical double voter. Does that it mean it never happens? Of course not. But it's a slender chance that it occurs AND is tabulated within voting registrars' official results to the degree that would be necessary to alter who has won the election.

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#57 Post by mockbee » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:20 pm

tvrec wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:54 am
I've worked California polls for about 2 decades, so I can speak to my experiences there and how mail & in-person voting is set up to prevent and litigate double-voting, not that those procedures are the same in every state (or even every county within a state, since those differ in processes too). When voters in California are mailed a ballot, as they were in total across my county and I believe across the entire state, the voter roster assigns the voter the status of vote-by-mail. If voters turns up at a polling station requesting to vote in person, they have three options: drop off the completed mail ballot, signed and sealed; surrender their ballot that was mailed to them, which is then "spoiled" immediately in front of the voter so that it cannot tabulated (and set, rather than in the ballot box, in a separate envelope for spoiled ballots). The roster clerk then has to record in the register that the voter surrendered the other ballot and then the voter signs in next to their info, including a voter specific bar code, and votes in person using the voting equipment with a user specific access code. Everything is cross-referenced and easily traceable; or, if they say they don't have the ballot or never received it or what have you, they have to vote provisionally, which means that they have to fill out a whole slew of info including things like a state ID or drivers license number and testify under criminal charges that they have not double-voted. These ballots are individuated and not included in any tabulation of voting until the county registrar can verify each person's eligibility to vote and that they have voted only once. All this is to say, the system has safe guards in place for this hypothetical double voter. Does that it mean it never happens? Of course not. But it's a slender chance that it occurs AND is tabulated within voting registrars' official results to the degree that would be necessary to alter who has won the election.
That all makes sense and sounds very secure. Especially for states such as California that have a history of general mail-in voting (beyond the typical Absentee that is available by law in all states).

I guess we will see how states that are new to mail-in voting handled same-day registration voters and people who came in to the polls after receiving a mail-in ballot. I guess the key is what the provisional ballot process is in each of the states that are new to general mail-in votes.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections ... ction.aspx

You are a true patriot for working polls the last twenty years. Thank you. :tiphat:

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Re: Who is going to win the election - Nov 3, 2020 - Biden or Trump.....?

#58 Post by mockbee » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:04 pm

mockbee wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:21 am

I think repubs (trump) are on it..... :waits: :drink:
I think we are going to see big movements in the next week or two.....:noclue:

dems are/were lulled i'm afraid......

Just the rumblings down low are like...... convulsing at the moment. :waits: :wavesad:

trump is prepared to go through proper/court channels...........like w/kavanaugh/ACB/etc.

The lead up lawsuits sacrificial lobs.....?

:noclue:






am I high....?

We'll see........ :scared:

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#59 Post by Pandemonium » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:01 am

It's over. Trump and his band of merry idiot lawyers have exhausted all their options.

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#60 Post by mockbee » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:25 pm

Good.

~79 million people voted against Trump (+1 million for Biden...... :hehe: :lol: ) - most in US history.
~73 million people voted for Trump (+1 million against Biden...... :noclue: :hehe: ) - 2nd most in US history..... by faaar! - Hillary got 65 Million

154 million votes in total.......wow, that's a lot of votes........ :rockon:

But even with all those votes:
Trump sealed his 2016 victory with 77,000 votes across three battleground states, while Biden’s margin would be slightly narrower — about 45,000 votes across Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin. :yikes:
https://apnews.com/article/election-202 ... c80025a9b0
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#61 Post by mockbee » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:30 pm

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