It’s Official - Dave is sitting out the tour

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Re: It’s Official - Dave is sitting out the tour

#21 Post by Diabolik » Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:48 pm

Eric coming back just when Dave is seemingly leaving it is weird and suspect.

If Dave is talking “he might be able to watch the band perform”— he sounds VERY far away from being able to perform and tour.

I was reading that and thought, maybe he’ll show up in LA and play a song. Maybe that happens —but this is all super weird.

With the recording going on I was convinced they would have a single or something….

But they have all been playing it by ear with a vague hope Dave can be a part of the band.

Just so weird!

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#22 Post by parklife03 » Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:50 pm

jptm wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:46 pm
I think Taylor's OD led to a flurry/crazy array of emotions and this is the outcome.

:sad:
Don't forget that Jane's canceled the Latin America tour earlier this year (with a three days notice, too) before Taylor's death. In fact, Hawkins died in that tour.

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#23 Post by bman » Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:51 pm

He's a head case. That's it.

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#24 Post by bman » Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:03 pm

I'm bummed. This is so lame. Dave and the band should have mentioned this months ago. It should have been switched to P4P. The vibe would still be good. This just feels icky imo. And I guarantee you Navarro knew a couple of months back he had no intentions of playing. And I have Tix for 2 cities!

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#25 Post by sinep » Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:04 pm

Wow wild…. This is a rollercoaster.

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#26 Post by Noonesshocking » Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:06 pm

I’m still gonna go just for the sheer novelty factor. I mean… who the fuck ever would have thought we’d see an iteration of Jane’s with Eric but not Dave. After all the years of legacy touring with Chaney?

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#27 Post by Tyler Durden » Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:06 pm

I honestly don’t think this is long Covid. There’s been a lot of strange activity on his social media that would suggest something more is going on. Photos with death doulas and him in public covered head to toe in fabric. Very weird.

I’ve had my suspicions about Dave’s physical health for some time…
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#28 Post by bman » Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:31 pm

I think Navarro microdosed himself into a new person and just doesn't feel like doing it lol. Might as well have called up Ed??? Wasn't there 2 guitarists in Jane's pre Dave lol

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#29 Post by Artemis » Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:35 pm

I was curious about Troy Van Leeuwen and The Damned connection and found out he replaced Captain Sensible earlier this year on their tour.

Reading the comments on FB and a lot of people are unhappy. Someone wrote they spent $1000 on front row seats!

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#30 Post by Hokahey » Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:58 pm

Artemis wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:35 pm
I was curious about Troy Van Leeuwen and The Damned connection and found out he replaced Captain Sensible earlier this year on their tour.

Reading the comments on FB and a lot of people are unhappy. Someone wrote they spent $1000 on front row seats!
If they had any integrity they'd offer refunds. It's been pretty clear he wouldn't be there, and they offered zero indications on their own minus P4P replacing Jane's at Lolla.

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#31 Post by bman » Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:18 pm

Conspiracy theory... pumpkins contract said 3/4's of Jane's have to be on tour in order to share the bill. Dave clearly was a no go for several months. Perry made Eric an offer he couldn't refuse lol. I kid. But with this band who the fuck knows. I'm still going to msg. But I will try to sell my highly overpriced Philly floor seats now.

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#32 Post by someguy » Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:23 pm

bman wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:18 pm
Conspiracy theory... pumpkins contract said 3/4's of Jane's have to be on tour in order to share the bill. Dave clearly was a no go for several months. Perry made Eric an offer he couldn't refuse lol. I kid. But with this band who the fuck knows. I'm still going to msg. But I will try to sell my highly overpriced Philly floor seats now.
Dan Cleary said Eric had wanted to come back and that Chris wanted to take a step back from touring… which is pretty mind blowing considering all the offers he turned down over the years

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#33 Post by bman » Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:32 pm

It would be nice to hear from Eric..like, what made you want to come back.

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#34 Post by Pandemonium » Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:32 pm

My take is, the Janes camp knew Dave wasn't likely doing the tour going back several months and made Eric an offer of a hefty payday to do the tour so they could still get away with calling it Jane's Addiction. I think months ago when the Pornos teases and few shows happened, there's was some sort of idea of slotting in Pornos instead of Janes on this tour in band if not name but probably promoters and legal contracts put the kibosh on that idea. At least there's a more concrete reason why Dave didn't do the Hawkins shows.

I agree it's extremely shitty to play coy this past few months or even the last couple'a weeks and wait until 3 days before a big arena tour starts to say Dave's not playin' but some guy 95% of those attending have never heard of will be replacing him. I would have been far more interested in seeing this lineup with Pete on guitar - they could have made the gigs a bit special with a bunch of Porno songs mixed in with the usual Janes burnout tunes. As it stands, Janes will have to really bring on the heat starting with the first show or it may get ugly with the fan backlash.

I also bet Eric is back out after this tour.

(edit: I just saw Bmans post saying the same thing)

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#35 Post by Diabolik » Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:12 pm

bman wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:18 pm
Conspiracy theory... pumpkins contract said 3/4's of Jane's have to be on tour in order to share the bill. Dave clearly was a no go for several months. Perry made Eric an offer he couldn't refuse lol. I kid. But with this band who the fuck knows. I'm still going to msg. But I will try to sell my highly overpriced Philly floor seats now.
Honestly — I bet there’s some truth to this.

I bet some version of “an offer came in for Jane’s Addiction to open for SP, but it’s needs to be 3/4 of the band or we can’t market this a Jane’s Addiction.

Jane’s was probably done at this point with Dave either done with the band or sick or whatever.

And maybe Perry had mended things with Eric anyway and things fall into place. Or maybe the offer comes in like a year ago and then overtures are made to Eric

I’m sure they hoped for the best with Dave, but here we are.

It’s just too coincidental that Eric is back in the band as Dave is out.

Edit: I think we’re all on the same wavelength lol

Edit 2: what if the gigs are great with this guy?

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#36 Post by esqfool » Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:24 pm

I gotta laugh at this whole scenario. We finally get Eric back and he seems into it (as opposed to 2009 which seemed to blow up in the studio), and now Dave is out. Oh well, nothing can be easy being a fan of this band.

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#37 Post by Mescal » Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:36 pm

What a joke this band is (well, has been for the last 25 years).

Jane's without Eric, ok fine (well not fine, but most people don't even know what a bass player is) ... but Jane's without Dave?

I would have thought that this would have been the last chance they get to do things right. Next tour will be 3/4 of Jane's Addiction with Etty fronting the band.

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#38 Post by CaseyContrarian » Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:45 pm

AT LEAST ITS NOT GILBY

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#39 Post by Stickyfingers » Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:53 pm

They sold the tour with pictures of the original lineup and didn't answer about Dave's condition, they just want to milk the cow, this gang of crooks.

I expect the announcement of Eric out of the band at the end of the tour, another classic.

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#40 Post by phenobarb_bambalam » Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:56 pm

As someone said in another thread, we can never have nice things with this band. There is always a way for them to snatch defeat from the jaws of (potential) victory.

The fact that this has happened is no surprise at all; it actually would have been a surprise if Dave had made it. It's THE WAY that it's unfolded that's the issue.

No disappointment, per se, despite having bought tickets when the EA announcement was made. It's just so fucking tedious. As always, it all unfolds in just the wrong way. Long covid or otherwise, there is just no credibility - he's spent months actively posting on Instagram about everything under the sun, apart from JA. To then say you're "gutted" when there hasn't been one iota of engagement or interest in what should have been an exciting time for the band is just BS - especially when he's had plenty of energy to get a silhouette of Chaney inked in his arm pit and patch up the graffiti on a Shepard Fairey mural. It's fucking risible.

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#41 Post by dannyboy » Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:39 am

Its a strange, strange situation. Eric is back but no Dave. I know Eric likes Jane’s to have an air of mystery so maybe his influence has meant that there’s been a lack of info. But back in 2008 they were still throwing out cool little nuggets like rare old photos and stuff.

Im sure they were all really hoping Dave would be up to it. But, Dave’s post does come across a little disingenuous, I don’t know why I feel that though. Maybe because he’s not shown any interest in Jane’s for ages. I believe he’s not well enough for the tour but I don’t think he’s gutted about it. But I do hope he gets better, I want him to be healthy and happy.

I’m in Italy so I didn’t get tickets but I would’ve been so excited to see the og lineup again. I was still excited even from here. But I am interested to hear and see the performances. Will it feel vital?

I will not be taking that bet about Eric staying beyond this tour thank you very much.

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#42 Post by Tyler Durden » Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:51 am

If Dave isn’t able to tour because of “long Covid”, but will be hard at work in the recording studio (yeah, sure)….how come there were ZERO pics of the entire band in the studio recently and Dave said fuck all about Eric coming back, etc.?

There’s more that they’re not telling us.

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#43 Post by S&M » Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:26 am

Jane’s without Dave?.. Is like Jane’s Without Perry? .Obviously Billy won’t let Porno take that place contractually? ..I play guitar and there are so many subtleties that Dave plays no one will ever get that right!! .. Maybe Perry will bring Pete? .. Whatever Dave is battling better be really substantial?.if you bait your audience like “Original lineup? “. And this was actually a possible kick start to that heartbeat?. ..Giant opportunity?. I really love Dave and obviously something is really happening in his world? ..I hope it’s not more serious?.. I could really give a fuck about the future, but I really love those individuals ♥️ Something off? 🤔 I could play most of Dave songs, half assed with little energy but I know that traveling really wears you out!!.. But still there’s something more going on here?
He could be babied and pampered!! He ain’t playing?.. Something funky?

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#44 Post by Tyler Durden » Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:39 am

As I stated before Dave’s absence was made official, Pete is the only logical/worthy substitute. But given what we’re now being offered, I MIGHT settle for Josh Klinghoffer. :noclue: :lol: :nyrexall:

I guess the only thing that separates Etty from being the new guitarist for Jane’s Addiction is $1,000 manicures.

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#45 Post by S&M » Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:46 am

I think it’s almost blasphemous to appear as Jane’s Addiction without Dave just like it would be impossible to appear as Jane’s Addiction without Perry?.. I know this is a bit of a stretch but it’s kind of like going to see Led Zeppelin and Jimmy Page can’t play.? or Ann Wilson from Heart is going to replace Robert Plant as the singer for this tour? .. Band chemistry is holy don’t fuck with that!! .. Accept Porno for Pyros as the replacement or bow out of the tour!! .. Keep Jane’s Holy!!!

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